On 25 Jul 2005, at 10:33 am, Tim Steele wrote: > This happened in 2003 - see www.snopes.com/science/mars.asp Indeed. This year's opposition will not be as good, and if I remember correctly does not occur until November. I did see Mars the other night, it's already brightening considerably, but it doesn't rise until around midnight at the moment. Tim. -- Dr Tim Cutts Informatics Systems Group, Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute GPG: 1024D/E3134233 FE3D 6C73 BBD6 726A A3F5 860B 3CDD 3F56 E313 4233